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February 12, 2018

Joe Moore - Placid Boatworks

Summary Listen in as Will and Joe discuss the history,  art and craft of canoe building, and how Joe uses his background in environmental conservation and transferred his knowledge and experience of the outdoors into becoming one of North America’s most renowned canoe savants. Will and Joe also tell the tale of Upstate New York’s epic 90 mile canoe race, as Will paddled the race for the first time this year, and Joe has impressively won his class the last two years in a row. Joe relives the experience and shares how to physically and mentally prepare and train for such an adventure!

Joe Moore – Placid Boat Works

Owner Joe Moore's educational background is in Geography and Natural Resource Management and Administration. He has worked as a journalist and spent more than 13 years with an Adirondack not-for-profit environmental group whose mission was to preserve and protect the wild, natural character of New York's Adirondack Park. He served initially as membership coordinator and later as a park policy analyst, reviewing state and private project proposals as well as land use and water protection policies.  In 2003, Joe started Moore Environmental Consulting and worked with a grant administered by the New York State Adirondack Park Agency, identifying and implementing methods to improve parking and hiker safety along the busy Route 73 highway corridor.Joe is an accomplished woodworker with experience in everything from furniture building to home construction. He has an extensive background in outdoor sports, having competed in road cycling and nordic skiing. He is a multiple gold medalist at New York's Empire State Winter Games and has medaled in the Keskinada Loppet in Hull, Quebec, in the 29 km freestyle event as well as the Lake Placid Loppet. He has paddled a Placid Boatworks RapidFire in each of the last four Adirondack Canoe Classics ("The 90-Miler") and has won the event's Solo Recreation class a number of times. Other favorite outdoor pursuits include hunting, fishing and, of course, recreational paddling.


Together with cofounder Charlie Wilson, Joe developed a unique vacuum infusion system that is used to build Placid Boatworks. Charlie had the idea of building composite canoes and bonding separately molded composite gunwales to them to cut weight and maintenance.  Joe took the idea a step further and developed the industry's first simultaneously infused foam core composite gunwales. Several companies have copied this system (one in Canada that starts with an 'S' even takes credit for developing it!). Much to Joe's chagrin, his former partner has chosen to work with that copy cat company after Joe bought his share of Placid Boatworks. Unfortunately, this kind of ethically challenged activity seems to be a common theme in the canoe industry..... Ce la vie.


Most recently, Joe has collaborated with USA Luge, using the same vacuum technology to build sleds for elite athletes. As a craftsman, the idea of building the very highest quality hulls in design, materials and performance coupled with hand finishing them in exotic, attractive and durable trim materials persuaded Joe to join in forming Placid Boatworks

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For over 30 years, Sawyer Products has been dedicated to offering more effective and reliable products for outdoor protection. Using science and rigorous testing, they have developed the most advanced and easy to use solutions in water treatment, insect repellent, sunscreen, and first aid. 
Tune in as Will and Ryan review and discuss an in-depth coverage of all Sawyer Products, from water filtration systems to kid safe sunscreen and bug repellant. Ryan talks about the journey of the company itself, from its inception 30 years ago, to current day where they are now producing some of the most highly effective and lightweight water filters in the industry. Learn about the amazing charity work this company is currently doing in Africa- where Sawyer Products is donating resources and water filtration products with the goal of improving the water quality and supply in Africa.
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Bio: Zach Even-Esh

Zach is The Founder of The Underground Strength Gym (Located in Edison & Manasquan, NJ) and created The Underground Strength Coach Certification in 2008. Since 2008, hundreds of Coaches have traveled from around the world to learn the training methods used at The Underground Strength Gym that build BadAss Athletes.   

Zach is also the author of The best selling book, The Encyclopedia of Underground Strength & Conditioning. Zach has trained over 1,000 athletes ranging from the youth level to Olympians as well tens of thousands of online athletes, coaches and lifters have invested in Zach’s training and business programs to learn his methods.

Zach also serves as a consultant to D1 Coaches and exercise companies such as Sorinex, Life Fitness / Hammer Strength, Spartan Race, World Wide Wrestling, Cliff Keen Sport and Many More.

About Underground Strength & Conditioning: The Underground Strength Horseman are comprised of Coaches who Live The Code. They embody what Underground Strength Coach represents as a family, brotherhood & community of Strength in Mind, Body & Spirit.

These Coaches don’t simply talk about the code, they LIVE the code through their actions, representing who we are and what we are. This family of Coaches is focused on providing excellence for others and represent the essence of strength & performance in mind, body & spirit.


In this episode, Will and Zach discuss the importance of physical strength and conditioning, work ethic, mental toughness and mental discipline both inside and outside of the gym, and how this mindset and lifestyle can carry over into everything we do- from family life, to career, to relationships and even raising children. Listen in as Zach talks about two of his greatest passions-how to properly train athletes, and getting strong as hell!

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In this episode Will asks Aron a ton of beginner questions and Aron drops some photography knowledge. 


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To all of the listeners of the show we are incredibly grateful you have listened to The Confessional Series.  Unfortunately, at this time I have come to the conclusion that to take it to the next level I will have to have a source of income so the show can support itself and grow.  With a podcast there are a few ways to do that one being to take on sponsors and advertisers and the other is to charge for it.  I would prefer not to take on sponsors for this series as it may hinder the content or opinions able to be expressed on the show.  Therefore, it leaves me with only the option of charging for the show.  I would live to provide better giveaways and fan experiences for the listeners of this show and unfortunately that will require money.  I hope you understand why this decision has been made.  If you have any questions or comments, please reach out to me at adventurousgentlemen@gmail.com

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In this episode Aron and Will talk about the why you should never wash a down jack and different layering systems for cold weather. 


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Adventurous Gentleman Podcast

Patrick Rollins



On this episode of the Adventurous Gentleman Podcast, Patrick Rollins joins the show to discuss his experience as a wilderness survival teacher, his passion for the outdoors, important skills when it comes to survival and bushcraft as well as some gear suggestions.



Patrick is a lead instructor at Randall’s Adventure in Training School of Survival. From 1993-2012, he was a Sheriff’s Deputy with the Whitfield County Sheriff’s Office in Georgia. Patrick is a certified First Responder, Firearms Instructor, Glock Armorer, Rope Rescue Technician, Swiftwater Rescue Technician (Rescue 3 International) and Wilderness First Responder (WFR). He’s trained in woodland operations, wilderness survival training, land navigation and training. Patrick has designed a highly acclaimed knife, the PR-4, for ESEE.

Today on the show we discuss:

  • Patrick’s upbringing and his passion for the outdoors
  • Patrick’s transition from a 21-year career with the Sheriff’s Office in Georgia to the Randall’s Adventure in Training School of Survival
  • How taking on this job has changed him personally
  • Randall’s Adventure Training School
  • The 3 most important skills when it comes to survival and bushcraft
  • The PR-4 knife Patrick designed for ESSE
  • Patrick’s go-to knives
  • Survival skills in the jungle
  • Patrick’s experiences teaching in Peru and the Amazon
  • Patrick’s go-to gear


[0:00] Introduction to show

[1:20] Introduction to guest, Patrick Rollins

[2:56] How did you get involved in the outdoors?

I grew up exposed to Red Dawn, First Blood and developed an interest in the outdoors early on. I joined Boy Scouts and had a coach at school show me Jeremiah Johnson, where I developed an interest in primitive skills.

[4:40] Inspired as a child, how do you get from there to where you are today?

I got into law enforcement right out of high school. In 2009, I took a 5-Day Wilderness Operations course at Randall’s Adventure Training Camp through work because of its similarities to a law enforcement camp. I learned basic human tracking, basic survival, land navigation and ropes. I fell in love.

[6:20] Teaching classes at Randall’s

I was asked to come back and teach classes at Randall’s Adventures. I would take a week off of vacation at a time. By 2012, I began teaching jungle survival in Peru. In 2012, another instructor and I were taking group to the Amazon by ourselves. This was a turning point where they were handing over the reigns the jungle instructor course to me.

[7:00] A new career

In October 2012, Patrick was offered a full-time job with the same salary to continue his work with Randall’s instead of his current job as Administrative Lieutenant of the Patrol Division at the Sheriff's Office. Everyone in his life said “go for it, it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity” and his boss offered a place for him if the job at Randall’s didn’t work out. Patrick left his full-time job, an administrative job in an office to pursue his dream. He doesn’t miss it. Even during his hardest class, in the elements and he hasn’t slept in 3 days, it never seems like work to him. It’s just an adventure.

[9:33] How have you changed personally since starting this job full-time?

Starting this job has freed up time to do stuff that I love. Before I would have to do things on my own time, now it’s a part of my job. I don’t feel guilty that I have to take time away from anything or anyone else, it’s improving my skills too.

[10:23] What are the 3 most important skills when it comes to survival and bushcraft?

  1. Tool use - A lot of the tool use in bushcraft (primarily a knife). It’s essential to be good with a knife. 2. Fire. The ability to get it going when it’s bright and sunny, but also when it’s rainy and cold. 3. Be able to adapt and think outside of the box. To think of different ways you can use different items to your advantage.

[12:27] Experiences while in Peru

Using your knife to its fullest potential takes practice, learning different skills and what you can get away with. In Peru, you see people who can use machetes to their full potential and it’s amazing. You can entirely clean and process a chicken, gut and clean a piranha. You can watch the finess and it hammers home that there’s a lot you can do with a sharp blade. Living the the US, it’s about having the best, most high-quality stuff but for those living in Peru, it’s just living. [15:46] How many knives have you designed now?

Only 1, the PR-4. I was asked to design a knife that I would want to use in the woods. No plans to design more because I am not a designer. The inspiration for the PR-4 design Horace Kephart’s classic design. The knife has a spearheart blade, 4” blade, ⅛” thick.

[17:12] What was it like seeing the first prototype?

Connected with a blacksmith friend of a friend who created a prototype. The craftsmanship was second to none. Used it for 2 or so years before it was put into production. Never had any problems with it. It’s a simple design.

[19:40] Use the right tool for the job

The knife industry these days is more gimmicky, adding thicker blades, sawback, chop, saw and everything with it. You’re adding too much. It’ll never saw as well as a saw, chop as well as an axe and now never function well as a knife. I want knives to be knives. If you have an axe, use it for chopping. Use the knife for the knife tasks. Sometimes people want to buy their way out of learning something

[20:54] What was your go-to knife before you designed one?

The regular ESSE 3. I like a thin blade, ⅛” thick is thick enough for me. Then we came out with a 3HM, it has a rounded and more contoured handle.

[21:23] Why a thinner blade versus a thick blade?

When you get into notches, trap triggers, etc. A thick blade can make it more difficult. Our ESSE 5 is a ¼” thick that is meant to cut, pry and chop your way out of a crashed helicopter. This is way too thick and heavy. A small blade allows you to be more capable of handling it intricacy better.

[22:20] What was your first trip down to Peru and the Amazon like?

Knife skills and fire are where my passion lies. I came down this first trip to teach how to make fire in a rainforest. There was a moment of “maybe I’m in too deep.” It’s a fun place to visit but not to live. There was intense heat, humidity and so many insects. By the time I had been down there 2-3 times, I was handed off to be the lead instructor without supervision and pretty confident. The other instructor, Reuben, had been to multiple jungles around the world so I felt confident about the skills we had between us. Additionally, we always use the same guide, Percy, who provides teaches about the plants and animals of the jungle.

[25:15] When you’re down there, do you eat whatever you find or do you bring food?

As instructors, we’ll sneak some extra food to keep us going. You have to maintain a clear head and ability to teach everyday. With the heat and humidity, I don’t get that hungry but ensure we maintain enough calories. For the students, look for food close to shelter or water source. Especially catching food. There might be 2-3 days without food though so we do scout around for animals.

[27:30] Cooking animals found in the jungle

[29:03] Strange things Patrick has eaten in the jungle

Think of it just as calories and the energy that you’ll get from it.

[29:55] Has the jungle been the toughest place that you’ve had to do survival training or other ecosystems that are just as challenging or more so?

The jungle has heat, humidity, bugs and constant rain so that is challenging to deal with. I grew up in the Southeastern Woodlands, that is the most comfortable arena for me. As long as you can find water. The desert would be the most challenging because water is scarce. I haven’t done anything in the extreme North.

[31:14] Other than a knife, do you have a favorite piece of equipment you take with you?

I have a H&B Forge Medium Camp Hawk. Short 19” handle with a hammer pull. Been with me on every trip. Light-weight and almost always with me.

[31:50] What are common mistakes people make when they’re on survival or bushcraft trips on their own?

When I teach classes, I find people can overestimate their skill level. They’ve grown up hunting, camping, etc. and you assume you can build a fire, for example. It’s an eye-opener. If there’s a chance your life might depend on a certain skill, you will want to have practiced it a whole lot before that moment comes.

[34:25] Is there anything that sticks out as the worst disaster while out there in the field?

We’ve been really fortunate about accidents. Before getting into using any sharp tools, we teach a safety class. We did have a case of a gentleman in a 3-day survival class who used the machete and cut himself on his opposite shin.

[36:05] What’s your gear list look like?

Information and links below

[39:26] With canoe camping, what type of canoe are you rocking?

Information and links below

[41:50] Always an interesting day in this profession

This profession allows you to meet varied and interesting people; bridge the gap between hunting and outdoor communities

[44:30] When you’re out in the jungle, is there ever something you’re not looking forward to doing?

Not really, worst part is just being in the environment, the jungle. The energy level drops as the days progress.

[48:37] Thanks for joining us!

Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

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Patrick’s Camping Gear:
⅛” knife: ESSE PR-4, 3 or 3HM

Sleeping bag: Proforce Softie 9 Hawk

Sleeping pad: Therm-a-Rest Prolite

Tent: Big Agnes Copper Spur 2

Tent for canoe camping: Kifaru Sawtooth

Hiking boots: Salomon 4D GTX

Axe: H&B Forge Medium Camp Hawk

Fire rod: Swedish FireSteel Light My Fire Rod

Canoe: Old Town 147


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